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Will get some up, may be a bit of a delay though, off on my travels again tomorrow - going off radar for another bit.

Also my head is still patchy reddish and the new treatment is still quite dark. The pics will look better once it settles - for my first two sessions that was at about 5 days.

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Here are some photos post session 3. Taken today, so 12 days after the session. And more or less straight after a foil shave and shower (in that order).

I took these in same bathroom lighting as before, although they seem to have come out a bit darker (not especially easy, this taking good photos of your own head business). I think this is my least favourite lighting - to me SMP has always looked better outside (but I wanted to show the less flattering lighting condition, and anyway it's raining today ;)).

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Yea really pleased, as you say blend is much better and shine level seems to be similar to post 2nd session now. Will see how it goes over the next few months then make a call on what to do. There are a couple of minor tweaks I might still like to do, so I'll probably end up doing the 4th session (especially since it's free), but will leave it until new year.

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Well it's lightened some more and is once again slightly too light to my eyes under bathroom lighting :blink:

Still some shine issues too.

All being managed.

Although I've not found a permanent routine yet, still experimenting. I like the wet shave but it leaves a bad shine. Foil shave much less so but I think my Braun Series 3 is starting to struggle after 8 months.....

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The question is, are you glad you did it? And is the maintenance ( daily shave, anti shine ) worth it and less hassle than fibers ? Currently I sprinkle about 10p of fibers on in the morning and a scoot of cheap hairspray and can then cycle to work ( rain and sweat ) and still pull off ( I think) a Norwood 3 on a Norwood 5 head. Would the extra hassle of SMP be worth it ?

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My opinion on smp is (and I’ve had it for around 2 years now) 

it’s less hassle for me just shaving everyday than styling my hair to cover my receding parts (Nw 3 high hairline, no hair loss on crown area). But the killer for me is shine! Something that never entered my head. Yes there  are products to reduce it, but these don’t last all day. I’ve never been able to accept it and just get on with it. (Wish I could, then smp for me would be 💯) 

I think the problem for me, stems from looking in the mirror before smp, at a “full head of hair” to full shaved off shiny head.. it’s hard to get used to, where as if someone is already bald or wet shaving their head... they are already used to the look...

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First thing, yes, I'm 100% glad I did it, just as much as I was at the start. The minor inconveniences of daily shaving and shine management are not really significant compared to the benefit of having a 'hairline'. Mind you, after the pain of the concealer routine anything would be an improvement :)

Must say I haven't had an issue with the shaved look. I admit I was reluctant to shave to the bone at first, but I genuinely really like it and was actually quite surprised how much and how quickly I liked it given that it was probably my biggest concern prior to having the SMP.

Shaving takes 10-15 minutes for my beard and probably another 5-10 minutes for my head, using a Braun Series 3 foil shaver. But I'm a bit picky and like it done right - if I was less fussy I could probably do it a bit more quickly. But would be interested in any good alternatives to reduce this time.

I'm going to be honest and say the shine has been more of a concern to me. I am currently managing this by quickly rinsing my head before foil shaving, and after shaving just wiping it with a dryish towel. This seems to keep it pretty much under control without having to use any mattifying products, on a regular basis at least (may use some PTR for special occasions :)). I've abandoned wet shaving for now since this seems to leave my head really shiny and it takes a few days to get back to normal.

My SMP looks best under natural light in my opinion, however it still looks a bit too light under some indoor lighting conditions. I'll probably plan to go back to HIS for my free top up session around February.

I'm off on another week's sunshine holiday at the end of the month and still haven't decided what to do about sun protection. I'm convinced that the last sunscreen I used contributed to the increase in shine that has never gone totally back to where it was previously. May just wear a baseball hat although I'd like to try a different brand of sunscreen and see if there is any difference. Also the top of my head is still a little whiter than my forehead, hence a just about visible 'line' where the SMP is a bit lower than where the concealers were.

 

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Just to add, last weekend I was chatting to a friend who is some years younger than me and almost completely bald (he keeps his remaining hair very short and sometimes shaves it). After a few minutes the discussion somehow got onto hair and he went into a bit of a rant as to why I shaved my head when clearly I had enough hair to grow it out. I tried to convince him that it really was thinning and also greying, and that shaving it 'cured' both issues. He seemed unconvinced :).

That's why I'm glad I had SMP (not to 'fool' people - whatever that means - but to maintain the confidence I had when I had hair and even when using concealers at the start).

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That’s the question I’ve been asked the most “why do you shave your hair off, when you’ve got a full head” 

I respond with, grey curly hair isn’t for me 😆 

that also brings me on to shine... In my head, I’m like, why would you want a bald shiny head when you appear to have a good head of hair !

wet shave, rotary or foil my head still shines like a mirror, so I have to use PTR everyday!!

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Looks fantastic.It looks just like real hair. Congrats!

I myself went to Birmingham about two months ago and had the female practitioner help me sort out the smp work that I had in Toronto which was unfinished.

Mine looks very compatible to yours as the practitioner at His Birmingham is very talented and laid in the correct density with a suitable shade to eliminate the patchiness that I had.

I now have peace of mind and can look in the mirror with pride.

I will only get my work done in Birmingham at HIS when a touch up is needed in the future and I highly recommend this place to anyone that is suffering with hair loss. Cheers!.

 

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On 15/11/2019 at 9:27 PM, JCVD said:

Looks fantastic.It looks just like real hair. Congrats!

I myself went to Birmingham about two months ago and had the female practitioner help me sort out the smp work that I had in Toronto which was unfinished.

Mine looks very compatible to yours as the practitioner at His Birmingham is very talented and laid in the correct density with a suitable shade to eliminate the patchiness that I had.

I now have peace of mind and can look in the mirror with pride.

I will only get my work done in Birmingham at HIS when a touch up is needed in the future and I highly recommend this place to anyone that is suffering with hair loss. Cheers!.

 

Glad you got sorted JCVD! Yea my first two sessions were with Ian & Ranbir. Third session was due to be also but Ranbir was sick on the day. Top job done by all at HIS Birmingham.

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Ok so just back from a nice winter sun week in the Canaries. Wife was buying suncream and had asked her to get some SPF15 since the sun isn't too strong there at this time of year. She came back with some of the Piz Buin stuff and since I noticed it didn't contain alcohol, I used it on my head. Unlike the last stuff I used, it wasn't greasy and when I got home the shine on my head was no worse than before the holiday. Good result I think.

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Think I might need some advice on the free top up session.

Initial plan was to do this session (needs to be done before 1st March to be within a year). However having contacted HIS I'm now not so sure.

My plan was to use this session to straighten the hairline a bit and slightly darken the top. However HIS informed me that the free top up session is only to address fading and not to make alterations (in which case it would become a chargeable session). (A little disappointed at this since I'd have thought HIS would do everything possible to get the customer 100% happy by the end of this session).

So it certainly looks like the hariline adjustment would make the session chargeable?

My wish to darken the top is as a result of fading for sure. I've posted two pics below (taken a few days ago) to show what has happened since the last session. The first one is after not quite 24 hours' growth. The second is right after a foil shave. Both under bathroom light which is more 'difficult' for my SMP than outdoor light in my opinion. As you can see after nearly a day's growth you can see where I have hair and where I don't. (Please note I have cherry-picked the very worst photo here; all others taken at the same time were actually fine even after a day's growth).

The last photos I posted on October 5th were just 12 days after my 3rd session and it was looking great then. Fading continued a bit after that - although has definitely long since stabilised. I'm not unhappy since it still looks good, more so right after a shave of course.

I'm deliberating whether it's worth doing the free top-up session (keep in mind due to where I live it costs me approximately £100 to go to each session). Also I have concerns about piling up more and more dots on my head if this isn't absolutely necessary!

Despite wanting to make use of any free session I'm inclined to leave this for now and see how this holds up over the coming months and (hopefully) years. It's been a great adventure up to this point and I'm very glad I did it - just don't want to spoil it ;-)

Happy to have any comments.

 

 

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I like the twenty four hours growth one best. If you cherry picked the worst one then you've no problems with blend to my eyes but then again I'm currently walking around with three days growth i think... fuzzy!  I actually travelled about for a week recently and quite liked how it appeared even though patchy looking under scrutiny. I just don't care, it works for me.

Altering your hairline will take more than one layer therefore more than one session if you follow. You could have a darker layer graduating from the crown forward in your freebie session, I don't think you will notice it too much when freshly shaved, probably initially will seem dark but that might give you more comfort with a bit of growth. Depends on your comfort levels with it. Looks solid as is. 

I would take the fourth.

 

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you have provided a lot of good feedback and free advertising for HIS on here and surprised they are nit picking on the guarantee issue. I know that originally the guarantee covered everything bu there were people going back for more and more sessions so they changed it to cover fading only 

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On 12/01/2020 at 6:28 PM, JH1980 said:

If the horse shoe is fully covered/ blended. I think your ok not to go? 

With direct lighting from above, it is. It definitely looks best right after a shave though, and I really don't like it to go more than a day without shaving. Other lighting conditions are a bit more tricky - I've attached a few admittedly crappy pics of my least favourite (backlighting). Where you can see the dark bits at the side where I have hair - and the SMP on top looks lighter. I'd have liked the SMP a bit darker (have been saying that since session #1!!!). But:

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Looks bang-on to me mate. I’d try and reframe from adding & adding more dots, otherwise it might start looking “painted on” 

That's what I'm concerned about. Don't want to fire more and more dots at it. Think I'd rather let it go for months or (hopefully) years and see how it holds up. Then I can come back and get whatever I want done.

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On 13/01/2020 at 11:55 PM, SHVD said:

I like the twenty four hours growth one best. If you cherry picked the worst one then you've no problems with blend to my eyes but then again I'm currently walking around with three days growth i think... fuzzy!  I actually travelled about for a week recently and quite liked how it appeared even though patchy looking under scrutiny. I just don't care, it works for me.

Altering your hairline will take more than one layer therefore more than one session if you follow. You could have a darker layer graduating from the crown forward in your freebie session, I don't think you will notice it too much when freshly shaved, probably initially will seem dark but that might give you more comfort with a bit of growth. Depends on your comfort levels with it. Looks solid as is. 

I would take the fourth.

 

Interesting. But then I'm always going to be my biggest critic. Wife sees no issue at all after a day's growth (or maybe more).

I maybe wasn't going to alter the hairline as such, just add a few dots on one side. But I can see how messing about in that area could ideally take more than one session.

I'm inclined not to do anything as you say. I'm probably nitpicking - although the crappy pics in my post above look better that what I see in the mirror under those lighting conditions. It's not like it's a major problem though, was just hoping for something a bit closer to my 'Virtual SMP' pic posted earlier in this thread.

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On 18/01/2020 at 1:43 PM, bobobaldy said:

you have provided a lot of good feedback and free advertising for HIS on here and surprised they are nit picking on the guarantee issue. I know that originally the guarantee covered everything bu there were people going back for more and more sessions so they changed it to cover fading only 

I've just posted honestly about my experience, and it's been primarily for my own benefit, albeit also with the hope that it helps someone else currently considering SMP. If as a by-product it provides good feedback and free advertising for HIS then fair enough, if they've done a good job then I don't mind that.

I understand that there used to be an unlimited free session (within a year) warranty, and that people were perhaps taking advantage of that. So I kind of understand why it became limited to one free session. The surprise to me was the restriction on what could be done at the free session - basically anything other than touching up fading and it's chargeable. I admit I am disappointed about that.

Anyway I told HIS well over a week ago that I'd get back to them, and I haven't done it yet. Right now I think the answer will be to pass on the free session......

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One more showing the contrast between SMP and normal hair under certain lighting conditions. This is well under 24 hours after a careful foil shave. Still think this has faded/lightened a little too much since you can clearly see the darker patches where I have more hair. This is why I'm not 100% satisfied with my results at this time. Bear in mind this is under the most unfavourable lighting though.

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On 26/01/2020 at 10:09 PM, gm68 said:

One more showing the contrast between SMP and normal hair under certain lighting conditions. This is well under 24 hours after a careful foil shave. Still think this has faded/lightened a little too much since you can clearly see the darker patches where I have more hair. This is why I'm not 100% satisfied with my results at this time. Bear in mind this is under the most unfavourable lighting though.

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This is why imo, people need to understand that if you want a perfect blend, you need to shave daily, every morning in fact... hair is 3D, smp is 2D. If  you let your hair grow, even slightly in certain lighting conditions you will always see a difference, whether or not the general public will notice is debatable... 99% probably not 

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