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Dot size are small knowone goes to your head with a magnify glass.. You wont look back if you have the treatment what's worse than a bald head? You can only better yourself, look younger feel good, havnt had one person even look at my head, if you are over paranoid and body dismorphic I dont recommend the treatment.. This is the next best thing from having actual hair, besides even if people do suss out you have done something why be ashamed of it? Your bettering yourself and I guarantee everyone will say you look better if you pull the trigger.

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I was under the impression that dot size had a lot to do with the practitioner's technique. Depending on how much pressure is applied and how deep the needle goes will significantly affect dot size. If you are concerned about dot size it would be a good idea to discuss it with whomever is doing the procedure and explain that you want dots as small as possible. I've seen pictures with very fine dots so I would say it is possible. I just think that you need to be very clear with the practitioner about the look you want and whether they have the skill to achieve it.

 

I did a quick google search and one company is claims to have smaller needle available that can produce smaller dots. However, it also says this needle is only for certain scalp locations and types, and that it is only used in 10% of cases (such as with alopecia or men who wore hair systems). So I'm not sure how feasible it would be to use such a needle for a full head treatment.

 

I don't know if there are different needle sizes available at HIS clinics. A rep from HIS would have to answer that.

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Well, speaking of needles. This is one  that is quite might pressure me most. How do they do it and the effect of its size. And exactly the effectiveness of its size. I heard from a friend that to add color pigment , tiny needles are used.

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Well, speaking of needles. This is one  that is quite might pressure me most. How do they do it and the effect of its size. And exactly the effectiveness of its size. I heard from a friend that to add color pigment , tiny needles are used.

 

There is some confusion being generated around needle size lately. I recommend you look up our member "Hating Hats'. He has written in some detail about needle size, and why the HIS needle is exactly the right size to deposit an amount of pigment that is precisely correct to mimic a shaved follicle.

 

I suspect your friend is referring to traditional tattooing, where a needle smaller than the one used to deliver black ink is used for the coloured ink, in fact they usually use a machine with three needles to deliver colour. Coloured ink should never be used for SMP - It contains metallic compounds which are difficult to remove with a laser for starters, or at least difficult to remove without leaving scars due to the higher frequencies of UV required to break down those larger molecules. Then there are the issues related to those large molecules breaking down, changing colour (usually to blue or green) and spreading.

 

None of these are issues for HIS, where the needles and pigments have been developed over more than a decade to be absolutely perfect for SMP.

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Sure the average person passing you by on the street won't notice. The challenge is how it will look to people who are around you often and get close glances where they can stare for awhile. Not saying it has to be perfect but it has to be close if you want to go undetected. Some people don't care if they get called out and that's cool. Some people do care though and would rather not have the treatment if there is a high risk people will be able to pick up on it.

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I have mentioned it before, and will no doubt mention it again, but there was a post by David1963, missing from this forum for a few weeks, who spoke about a visit to a dermatologist who was examining his scalp for a skin condition.

 

So this skin professional, not just looking at his scalp directly but examining it closely, suggested he grow his hair out as it might help with his condition. She was shocked when he told her about his treatment... and took details because she knew other clients who would benefit from it. Others have echoed David's story with ones of their own.

 

Do not underestimate the ability of an SMP to be a convincing replication of the real thing. Even less than perfect treatments can be wholly convincing... there is no such thing as a perfect head in real life so why should it exist in the world of SMP. anyway?

 

I suspect you are confusing horror stories from people who went with the local girl who specialises in eyebrows and lips with clients of the thoroughly professional and customer focussed team at HIS :)

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Sure the average person passing you by on the street won't notice. The challenge is how it will look to people who are around you often and get close glances where they can stare for awhile. Not saying it has to be perfect but it has to be close if you want to go undetected. Some people don't care if they get called out and that's cool. Some people do care though and would rather not have the treatment if there is a high risk people will be able to pick up on it.

 

Point taken buddy.  I know you've been on the forum for quite some time now, but perhaps you need to go to the nearest clinic and check out the treatment in person to truly understand and appreciate the realism of SMP replicating hair follicles.  

 

With my own family, I'm talking my mother and two sisters who grew up with me, none of them can tell.  After my second session, I went over to my parent's place for dinner, and while eating, my mom made a comment that she likes how I "grew out" my hair.  She was sitting right next to me at the dinner table, without a foot of my head dead-staring with her glasses and could not tell that it was anything but me growing my hair.  

 

As for close friends, I have a few friends who are keeners, as in they are always quick to point out every little thing on other people.  When they saw me after the 2nd/3rd treatment, the first thing they pointed out was "i didn't know you can grow a hairline, and how da heck did you get it lined up?".  That's the only reason it drew questions.  Once I told them (as they are my close friends), they couldn't even it.  They were inspecting my scalp for a good 10 minutes, and was blown away. 

 

I know people often talk about avoiding certain lighting where you can look more bald, etc., but speaking from a guy who's had a shaved head (voluntarily since 20-21), I can tell you that even with a full set of hair shaved to the bone, you WILL appear bald under strong lighting.  

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