periskop

pre-SMP FUE hair transplant, trouble blending/uneven skin. Need guidance/experienced help

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Hello, I think I need to start by saying I've already posted an earlier thread in the British forums but didn't quite get the depth of knowledge and expertise I seek. Checked with Ed and he was okay with me posting here as well to draw experience from a broader userbase. 

 

Some introduction on my road so far,

 

I have had FUE done on my temples and widow's peak about 3 years ago. The result was horrendous and I was no-where near satisfied and it left me to say the least, very depressed. I have drawn out where I have FUE on a picture below. Will also upload a post-SMP photo taken at the clinic right before session 1 as soon as it gets sent to me by my practicioner tomorrow.

 

 

I had 800 grafts for the purpous of having my hair medium to long, did not think much about how sparse it actually would look and it being obligatory to use toppik for the rest of my life up until the year of growth waiting had past. I was dumb and naive and I do not wish to hear any beating about it as I have myself already doing that to myself.

I wish to finally stop thinking about my hair as much as I've done from the day I started receding at the age of 16/17. Im also aware that I might be having more texture than most of the users in here but we're all in here because we are more or less vain. 

Im a bit of a perfectionist but when it comes to the hairline that is what everyone sees first and also oneself when looking in the mirror. If it looks realistic in 95% of different lightning from further away than 20 cm I would be more than satisfied, at the moment it looks artificial/weird under daylight and harsh industry lightning. Ironically Im an electrician so I will stumble across all kinds of light and collegues will be very near, more than the average-joe. 

 

I have had 4 sessions, the last one in November and Im not regretting this decision, what I do regret however is my hairtransplant as it's now also destroying the look/realism of my SMP (small benefit for the touch of the hand as stubble)

 

It looks good in darker light and noone would be able to guess but in daylight and direct light from above, especially in elevator mirrors (doesn't matter if its white light or yellow) it makes my temples stand out from the rest of the head, if 8 hours has passed since shaving as close as possible with my Phillips Shaver Series 3000 (its a cheap one I know but I was recommended it by my practicioner for the closeness of the blades) the transplanted hairs has grown out longer than the rest of my hair and as it's so sparse put it looks bad in reflection to my scalp around it. My routine so far has been to shave my entire head before going to bed as I have more time during the evening, really hard to get all the hair around my neck when in a rush in the mornings.

Then especially shaving my temples as hard as possible and also even it out all up to the top of my head so that it blends as good as possible with my temples.

 

BUT even with a fresh shaved head it looks weird in elevators and outside as my skin looks like chicken skin where the transplant is done, from the deep insections of the grafts. The transplanted hairs are as they usually come thicker, darker and more fast-growing. One side especially looks worse and "swollen", it goes red when appying pressure/touching it and is softer and also a bit sensitive. It also sucked alot of ink, and I might even be needing a 5th session for it to blend, along with adding a bit of darkness to the crown as I've read tips on that it doesn't stand out in colour. 

 

The advice I've gotten so far from 1 person is to fraxel-laser my temples to smoothen out the small bumps (chicken skin), but I am not fully convinced that only doing that would solve it all. 

The pictures I've named Elevator are taken just to show it as much as possible, it is hard to take pictures as I don't think they show the in person view justice. On the elevator pictures I have actually shaved with a razor and compare the rest of my head with the temples, it is smooth and even where'as the whole transplant'ed area is knobbly.

 

My thoughts so far are leaning the way of removing some of the transplanted hairs(?) doing fraxel-laser (really hoping its possible to get it more or less smooth as the rest of the head so shine doesn't expose that area so badly. And after this doing a 5th SMP to blend better/filling in what ink would disapear after fraxel-laser. Also if you could recommend any clinics in Sweden if you have any experience from them.

 

Should also mention I have SMP over my entire head as they do that for the overall look and if one would lose more hair in the near future. The only product I use is normal moisturising skin lotion after shave. Have tested Milk of Magnesia, but I think that helps people further on the norwood scale more than it does me. 

 

Has anyone gone through this before and would like to shed some light to my situation? Im a bit in the dark here as this is not something HisHairclinic solely can do as it is not their line of work with Hair and Skin. 

 

 

 

TL:DR highly appreciate any advice and feedback!

 

Marcus

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Hey Periskop

 

I have similar issues. Had fue transplants done years ago. My plugs dissappear in darker rooms but under certain lights I can see them.

 

Your pictures look much better than mine. I have not had one person mention anything or look at my head funny, not my family or friends.

 

I think because it's on top of our heads we fixate on it.

 

I think your pictures look great. These pictures are close ups of your head even then they look good, most people are going to look at it from a few feet away. When you go around in public do you get any funny looks or your family and friends that do not know about SMP ask you questions?

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Hey OnTheFence, the pictures taken in the Elevator with razor shaved head are cropped so might look like its closer, the resolution was too big and didn't really need to show the background. But it is the same visibilty to the naked eye from 50-60cm it's just that the camera can't take those shots from that distance since light would bright it up kinda like a flash that would cover the area I wish to photograph. Im well aware that it's become a fixation but since it's mostly visible in mirrors outside of the household with flourecent light from above/front it comes as a shock everytime it sticks out and I get afraid that it might look like that on more occassions than when I see it.

 

The only people I've told are my brother, mother and one close friend so far and they don't see much unless I point out my trouble to them, and that is indoors however, I have yet to brave myself up to go around in daylight without a cap if the situation would occur (which it does when im working at least, or go clubbing) that I stumble accross flourecent lightning/mild sun. 

 

Here's a picture sent from the clinic before doing my first session, I had shaved the day before that and it was the first time I had ever shaved my head prior to that. Also should add that I have read into Body Dysmorphic Disorder and fill up alot of the criteria. But its only the hairline thats being focused on so Im not too sure.  Thats also whats hard since it doesn't look the same way in different situations. I do know that it's mostly me who notices but until I get happy with it and comfortable my anxiety never rests.

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I think your pictures look great. These pictures are close ups of your head even then they look good, most people are going to look at it from a few feet away. When you go around in public do you get any funny looks or your family and friends that do not know about SMP ask you questions?

And thank you for your opinion on how it looks, I think I might need to hear it from more sources to slowly accept that so might be the case. About comment's I always believe that if something looks odd or someone is fat/skinny or such the most humane thing is to not pick on them on that matter as you don't know how much issues they really have about it or if its out of their control to change. So it would stay at the feeling of being observed not knowing if its a good thing or bad.

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When you talk to people and something is odd on your head people are going to glance for a couple of seconds but then they might look away and not say anything.  So you would notice that.

 

The first trip I made was department store where no one was going to know me with lots of people around. The sales person, the cashier and none of them game me funny glances and I was looking for them and that is how I started feeling comfortable.

 

I wish there was treatment I could tell you about to make your problems go away.

 

Sorry

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I don't want to make any stupid suggestions but would it help if you used a derma roller to help flatten the raised skin? Would it be beneficial to pluck some of the larger grafts out or use hair removal cream on them? 

 

I would be interested to know if any of the above helps. I too have had a HT in the past and I'm considering SMP. I also have grafts which grow through thicker and darker at the hairline so I could see this being an issue for me as well. I haven't shaved my hair right down before but I can see at certain angles that bumps are present where the grafts have been placed. I wonder if this is a problem for all people that have had previous transplants and then decide to get SMP. 

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I don't want to make any stupid suggestions but would it help if you used a derma roller to help flatten the raised skin? Would it be beneficial to pluck some of the larger grafts out or use hair removal cream on them? 

 

I would be interested to know if any of the above helps. I too have had a HT in the past and I'm considering SMP. I also have grafts which grow through thicker and darker at the hairline so I could see this being an issue for me as well. I haven't shaved my hair right down before but I can see at certain angles that bumps are present where the grafts have been placed. I wonder if this is a problem for all people that have had previous transplants and then decide to get SMP. 

 

Pluck with for example some tweezers? Havn't given much thought to it just until now since I thought it would just regrow after awhile like a brazilian wax? However taking a closer look at my left side transplanted area after trying to "massage" it with the shaver, I get this kind of sting feeling right underneat the outer layer of skin, as if the hair growing under the surface is pressing downwards and , maybe there is one or more grafts that grows in the wrong direction now that I think of it.. could that be the cause of the swollen look at that side? Compared to the other side which is stretched like the rest of the head this side has a somewhat bumb over it and is easily red, soft and sensitive. 

 

Dermaroller might be something worth looking into, could be doing the same type of effect as fraxel laser?

 

 

 

When you talk to people and something is odd on your head people are going to glance for a couple of seconds but then they might look away and not say anything.  So you would notice that.

 

The first trip I made was department store where no one was going to know me with lots of people around. The sales person, the cashier and none of them game me funny glances and I was looking for them and that is how I started feeling comfortable.

 

I wish there was treatment I could tell you about to make your problems go away.

 

Sorry

 

Would probably get away with it but the left side temple is something I need to solve as it goes red and kinda like theres a tiny layer of fat/blood under the outer skin, gonna try to reach out to a skin and hair specialist. 

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The hair would regrow after tweezing it but it may help flatten any of the raised bumps for the weeks while the hair is out. I used a dermaroller on my FUT scar and it did a good job of flattening it out. I think it is supposed to stimulate collagen which could help to even out the skin in that area. I don't know about fraxel treatment though sorry. 

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Will most def order a dermaroller after looking into it and mostly finding really good reviews.

Today I took some pictures in the mirror I dreaded most, I have to say if it isnt't for my left temple's skin being problematic I am starting to feel more at ease with how it all looks. 
Have sent an email to my old HT doctor (really had to swallow my emotions towards the clinic and the doctor, but who else knows as much about the things that can happen during a HT than him so I hope he answers.) 

Also sorry I didnt snap any photo's of the good side but it looks great, only a bit of glance/reflection but thats to be expected as it is a tattoo after all and no hair damping the lights. 

 

Has anyone else been called a hooligan when gone from hair to shaven?  :huh:

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Periskop, do you have any before/after photos of the back of your head? How well did the SMP camouflage the 800 FUE scars? Do you know what size punch your HT Doctor used?

 

I am in a similar situation as yours but have a mix of 1200 1mm FUE scars and 1300 .80mm FUE scars. I just went to a couple of electrolysis sessions to remove some hairs on the corner that were too low and it's healing pretty well.

 

I will also be using the Derminator which is a fancy dermaroller on my scalp FUE and recipient scars when my skin fully heals.

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I will send a text to the practictioner here in Sweden to ask for a photo of my back and get back to you, he's a great lad and fast to answer. Its holidays now tho so will probably be when everythings back to buisiness.

 

They say on their site the size punch is 0.6mm (0.5-0.75 depending on the shape of the hair) however the white dots on the back of my head would state that it probably is about 1mm. Also Sam thought they looked pretty regular and not smaller. Im a pretty sceptical guy nowdays..

 

Electrolysis is not the same as fraxel laser right?  :huh:

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