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  1. Getting caught out

    Hi to everyone. Like thousands of posts on this forum, I too have been reading and gathering information about SMP for quite some time. It took me about 3 years to pluck up the courage and save up the pound coins to finally start the procedure. I have been going bald since I was about 14 and definitely totally bald for over 30 years. I'm 55 now and although I was used to being bald, I didn't particularly enjoy having nothing there at all. I am also very, very fair skinned. And this is where my problem lies! I had viewed the hundreds of photos, before and after pics, and paid particular attention to those with fair skin; Damien's in particular. And I was seriously impressed by SMP. It seemed by the photos that the addition of 'hair' was quite subtle after a few days of settling down. I shocked my partner by telling her about SMP and saying I wanted to get it done. People think I was happy and confident in my baldness. Although not paranoid about baldness, I would rather have had hair, but would still then have shaved it to the bone. I had my second session 16 days ago in Birmingham. I'd left work for a 2 month period to get the treatment done. I bled quite a bit for both sessions and my scalp was in poor condition, although I have used moisturiser for years. I didn't go out for the first week. The transformation from a totally clear, bald head to my current appearance was / is, very obvious. I had shade 50 and then 52 so I was expecting the illusion of hair to be far more subtle than it currently is. My partner's friend visited our home about 10 days in. She is quite a switched on cookie. Her brother is a tattoo artist and her husband's head is exactly like mine was. When I left she immediately asked my partner 'Has he had his head tattooed?' She was shocked that I would be so bothered about baldness and had obviously heard something about such treatments. My partner didn't know how to respond; I'd told her it would fade so people would hardly notice so she was left out on a limb. She said while off work I'd let my hair grow. The friend knew that wasn't true but she is a good friend who I think I can trust not to gossip about it. Then, after 2 weeks of hiding from the world and it being Christmas, (having already avoided two parties), I decided it was time to risk it and get out there. I met a large group of pals. Nightmare!! 'Where did you get that hair from?' ''You've grown your hair. How can you do that when you are so bald?' and worst of all 'You can't grow hair; how are you doing that?' I wasn't directly challenged again about a 'tattoo' but people weren't convinced I hadn't had something done. I know, 2 weeks isn't enough for all the fading to take place, but what does concern me is how so many posters on here have said they've never been caught out, yet both times I've been seen by others I've been challenged about the sudden transformation. I am starting back to work in January. They all know me as being totally bald. We have new people coming to us for our services every week, some of whom I've known for years. I'm now wondering what on earth am I going to say. Has anyone been asked to explain their transformation from a clearly totally bald head to their new shaved hair appearance? If so, what were your replies??? ****Just to clarify though, this is NOT a dig at HIS or SMP. Were I starting a new life where no-one knows me then this procedure so far would be ideal; no-one would know that I wasn't simply shaving my hair down. This post is for advice on how to explain my sudden transformation when I don't want people to know I had such treatment****
  2. Hairy Again

    When you compare your latest photos with the last photo from your first post (on 30 Dec) it just shows how far you have come in the last month or so; brilliant results. What's your girlfriend's take on your smp? Personally I wouldn't tell your roomate's girl; you never know for sure how discreet they will be in the future.
  3. Really want to do this but...

    I believe you would be the best sort of candidate for the hishair smp program. The first treatment would cover all the bald area, hence it would just appear that you had indeed shaved off all your locks. Redness and tiny scabs are nowhere near as bad as photos on here make them appear.....on the photos they are very close up....and the dots are not that big that they look false. Shaving a full head of hair down would look 'raw' in reality in any case (ie, lack of sun colouring, nicks here and there). There would then be some fading before session 2 but others will not notice it, just you because we look at our new 'hair' at every opportunity. Follow-on treatments would then fill in the fading areas and again, no one else notices the added hair. If timing is the problem between session 1 and 2 could you not just have treatment at the start and then end of a vacation? I would definately recommend the hishair clinics as opposed to those clinics who try to do it all in one go. I went from a complete bald nut to shaved 'hair' in 2 sessions (still waiting for fading before my 3rd) and people think it's real...even though it's impossible for me to have grown a full head of hair, so, people will definately believe you have gone from your full head of hair to shaving AND it is so easy to look after each and every day. Good luck in your decisions.
  4. Hairy Again

    Looks absolutely brilliant, especially the hairline. Really looking good.
  5. Getting caught out

    Made me laugh, Bobobaldy; me being the only person on here who's treatment hasn't faded. Yeah, I know. Story of my life. (Just joking, I've had a ball in life....so far). I believe the practitioner intended the hairline to be broken; that's what we discussed, but neither of us expected the SMP not to fade so maybe if it had faded as per routine, and like it did between 1st and 2nd session, it may well have looked less defined. I don't think it is as straight as an intended defined hairline, like some ask for. What's people's thought on my last photo, please?
  6. Getting caught out

    Sorry SMPler....it ain't that simple. I don't want people to know I've had the treatment. P!$@ taking would be relentless for a start but in all cases I just don't want people to know. And no, it wouldn't be forgotten in a couple of days. I met guys for a few drinks before I went back to work and now, almost 2 weeks later everyday I'm told (sarcastically) that what I've grown is impossible, how can I bottle it and sell it and how I've got blue hair. Hey, I can laugh and joke with the best of them but it's my....and quite a few other posters on here...choice to not want others to know I've had the treatment. I've said before on this post, I like having something up there, albeit just an illusion, and if I was to just start a new life where nobody knew me before, this would work fine. I wanted a subtle appearance of light grey stubble.....my choice....quite a lot of money....and it hasn't happened. I repeat, I am not knocking SMP at all nor my practitioner, mine just isn't fading / looking like those role models I researched beforehand. Overthinking it? Yes, cus it's there all the time. It needs to be more faded and less sharp at the hairline. My choice in not wanting people to know I'm hiding my 30+ years of baldness.
  7. Getting caught out

    Clearer photo than before. Got more with better lighting where it does look lighter but I wont post them till I work out how to blank my face out.
  8. Getting caught out

    willgreen, having done a search and viewed your photos I think your treatment looks superb. You and I should just swap heads. Had a chat at a laser clinic today. She looked closely at my head and said she could not tell it wasn't hair but agreed that the hairline was a bit sharp. She Googled Hishair while I was there to get some information on the process. Having explained about the ink that Hishair uses she does think it will fade to a shade closer to the sides and back of my head and recommends I don't try a full, top of head laser....which was good of her because that's less money for them if I do go for some laser treatment later. It appears I do have some sun damage on the top of my head and she also recommended I get that checked by a doctor. I've got some better photos which I will try and upload.....how do you scrub out faces on photos?????
  9. Getting caught out

    Thanks SHVD. Am going to look into all possible solutions before I act. I understand what you mean by giving it time but it has now been almost 6 weeks and although larger patches such as my dome have slightly faded...though not much...more patchy than faded, the lines of my hairline are so distinct. My photos are really poor quality so don't show that. The lines have not faded and nor has the front part of my scalp. I was absolutely bald, fair and smooth on top so the appearance of a strong hairline along with dark shaved hair is too great a transformation to be believeable. I will keep the forum updated and thanks for all the responses.
  10. Getting caught out

    PermanentVacation; I guess that is indeed possible. However, my first treatment had my hairline higher than it is now and I looked like something off the Simpsons. My second treatment I was adamant I wanted it lower and that was against the wishes of my practitioner. She was reluctant to drop it but then agreed. I still rely on their experience and she said she would not go any lower than it is now. Considering my age I would say it is just about the right height now. My first treatment, like everyone else, (shade 50) was dark for the first few days then by the day of my 2nd treatment, 7 days after the first, it was just the right shade I wanted. Had I not (desperately) NEEDED to have the hairline lowered, I would have left my treatment at that and not had the 2nd session. But the hairline needed to drop 1/2 cm or so and rather than just have a strip across the front of my head where it was lowered, I accepted a full 2nd session (on top, not sides, because my left temple was still too painful from the 1st session). That 2nd session, (shade 52), is where it has gone 'wrong' for me. I never wanted an illusion of a full head of shaven hair because I knew the change in appearance would not be believable to people who knew me; I wanted an illusion saying that my hair had started receding and thinning, and so I was shaving to the bone as though 'hiding' that impending baldness....if that makes sense. So, the fading after session 1 was exactly what I was after...wish I had taken a photo myself....but the hairline was too high and cartoon like. My hopes are that now I can get the top all lightened to match the sides AND get the rather straight lined hairline broken up. That left temple I mentioned also has a 10p piece sized area that is darker than the rest of the sides; as though it was slightly over-inked in the first session, so I could do with that being lighter as well. I know Cutlass has experience of lasers to lighten and remove the ink; can anyone provide information on strength or power of the laser to just lighten or fade the ink slightly? I can risk having experimental shots of laser on that 10p sized ink area and also on a larger ink dot at the corner of my right receded hairline to see how it gets on before going the whole hog.
  11. Getting caught out

    Thanks for the replies. 2hangar, I will do outside photos this coming weekend. Bobobaldy, yeah, I am in 2 minds about a 3rd session.....as I said earlier, posters all say that the 3rd is when the magic happens. But, my main problem is the lack of fading all over the top and front. The vast majority of photos on the forum of smp look superb on guys. Those who were nw7 look far better with their new look so smp works and is a brilliant solution to baldness. However mine is just too dark on top and a bit too defined at the hairline making it too great a change in my appearance. Everyone who knew me before has noticed that change. Comments from them come on a daily basis and now three seperate people who have no connection with each other have said about how my hair looks blue....in different lighting!!! I love having that 'stubble' up there but want/need it to be far lighter and less defined at the front. I don't understand how more smp would achieve the lighter appearance even if shade 58 or 60 was used. My 2nd treatment was 52, so the slightly lowered hairline should appear slightly lighter than the top as the lowered hairline has only been hit once with the needle. But it doesn't. This week has meant teaching in a classroom with people I've never met before plus 2 I've met just in passing and there hasn't been a single double look or eyes up to my head as we speak. So it's not that my smp doesn't look real........except possibly occasionally blue......it is that the change from my being totally fair and bald to having thick dark stubble is too great to really be believeable. Work has been manic this week so again I've been a bit slow on my personal stuff. I have booked a consultation with a local laser company for tomorrow. I intend trying to ring HisHair lunchtime today for advice, work time permitting and will update on both over the weekend.
  12. Hairy Again

    The shade really matches your sides. Yep, it faded but still looks good, very natural. Looking forward to you posting after session 2.
  13. Getting caught out

    I dunno why it repeated the text on my last post. Sorry, I guess I'm just crap at photography. I don't know how to stop pictures looking grainy and the lighting is poor.
  14. Getting caught out

    Hey Bobobaldy. Bit of a mixed bag returning to work. On the whole day 1 went ok. One guy behind me when I was sat doing computer work mentioned how I was growing my hair and took a long look at the top of my head but then went on about how 'strong' my hairline was around the front. No one else had given me a second look and I got through to Fri fairly well. Through the week I bumped into people I've known for a few years and none of them were glancing up at my head as we spoke. But then Friday was a problem. We went out to 'celebrate' one of the girl's promotion. I was out in varying lights, from murky daylight to restaurant darkened lights and finally to a well lit pub and after a few drinks some ribbing started, in particular how I had blue hair. And to be honest in the pub mirrors it did look blue. But also there was some disbelief at how much hair I seemed to have. To be quite frank, I haven't done anything to help myself as yet. I had intended ringing a laser clinic and also Hishair on Tuesday but then because the start of the week seemed to go ok I thought I'd be able to get away with it. I had thought that the treatment had lightened ever so slightly but the hairline is still very distinct. As a result of Friday's comments though, I realise the treatment is indeed too noticable, not really credible and needs action. Come Monday I will ring a laser clinic to see if they have any experience with SMP. The one I've found seems to specialise in tattoo removal and advertises treatment to make tattoos fades (in readiness for a tattoo cover-up, apparently) so my hope is that they can possibly break up the hairline, lighten the SMP and also ease the line of my left temple because that seems to follow an un-natural line. I would say that SMP has taken over my life at the moment and not in a good way. When out of the house I'm waiting for people to comment or to be looking up at the top of my head; fading has been absolutely minimal to date.....more patchy as opposed to fading to a lighter shade. But because it's the top that is going patchy and not the hairline, it is still too distinct. I don't want to get it all lasered off as I had been excited at the prospect of having something up there, but the result after 2 treatments isn't as I had hoped. I know the process is described as a roller coaster and that the third session is when the magic happens, but I can't see how having more SMP would result in a more subtle appearance. I will try and take clearer photos and post them shortly.
  15. Getting caught out

    Thanks Checkingthisout. Yeah, did a search on laser/lazer and am quite suprised how many have gone through the same issue of being too dark.....and as bobobaldy pointed out, defined hairlines. Looks more like lazer may be the best solution for me so anyone know if it is just London in the UK or can I get local laser treatment? I did a Google search and there is a 'proper' laser clinic 30 miles away, (not just a cosmetic hair removal place). Would they be likely to understand my aims of fading the SMP and breaking up the hairline????
  16. Getting caught out

    Hey bobobaldy. I wish I'd taken a photo after my first session; my hairline was even higher, far too conservative but I understand why.....better to add a bit each time rather than get it too low at the first sitting, I suppose. BUT, on the 2nd treatment I had the hairline lowered a few mm and I'm happy with it now. You are right though, the hairline is too defined to be natural at age 55. What I do find strange is, the lowered hairline has only been done once, and with 52 shade. So I would have thought it would have looked less defined and be fading nicely. But it isn't. It's just as dark as the rest on top. My opinion now on SMP is that it is best for people who have been wearing a hairpiece and suddenly their transformation is just to a shaved head of hair, or people with some hair, lower nw ratings than nw7 who can then shave off their remainder and have SMP without too great a change in their appearance. In such examples the treatment is believeable.Having said that, again I'll mention Damien's treatment which appeared so subtle, and he was nw7. I will face the music on Tue when I start back to work, try and laugh it off but then get in touch with hishair to see what the best course of action is. I'm seriously thinking of lazer to lighten all the top and to ease the defined hairline. (If that can be done by lazering). Does anyone know if lazering can only be done in London or could I get it lazered to how I want it anywhere more local? Just before Christmas, only a day or 2 after my 2nd session, I was shopping close to home when a guy much younger than me came into the card shop I was in. He was directly in front of me in the queue and I could see he had SMP....he hadn't shaved the back and sides, which is what gave the game away. It still looked really good and was a very light grey shade on top. At that time I was really pleased because I thought that would be how light mine turned out. I've got to do something to make this right. It's almost a month since my 2nd session and it simply isn't fading anymore now.
  17. Getting caught out

    Shaved Shadow. I agree, your description of yourself is very much like me. I would only show a horseshoe if I didn't shave for a day or so. I would often shave twice a day to avoid the horseshoe. The effect you say you would go for is exactly what I had hoped for; the shade of my eyebrows, for instance, because at present my SMP is much darker than them. Your also right in that concealer and tanning is not the way forward. The other night I saw a post going back to 2013 where the lad wasn't happy with his treatment and he went to the London clinic to successfully receive lazering to remove the sharp edges and to lighten the shading. I'm thinking I will contact hishair to seen if lazering would help me. I can't sort my SMP before I start work so I'm knackered there but at least there is some hope. Thanks for your replies and support.....discussing my worries does help.
  18. Getting caught out

    Apparently 60 is the lightest shade. My practitioner said she had never used lighter than 50 before my 2nd session. That's one reason why I am so concerned about how dark mine looks. Maybe mine should have started with 60. We were out shopping today. I don't get any stares or 2nd looks from people who don't know me. But stopped to talk to an old friend who kept looking up at my scalp and finally asked 'what have you done?' I tried to joke saying I got it in a xmas cracker but this is really upsetting how noticeable the change is. I'm now starting to regret having this done!!
  19. Getting caught out

    2hangar, not thought of using that tinted moisturiser.....I will try it starting today...my partner has some that she uses occasionally. Any idea what it is like in the rain, though? I know the photos aren't great. I may get someone else to take a few and see if I can get them clearer. There are a couple of plus points; I have not had any large dots at all. My treatment never 'scabbed over' but at no time have I looked at it and thought that I had such large dots that I've seen on the forum; also, my scalp is in far better condition that it has been for years. I was advised by the practitioner to try a different moisturiser, containing vitamin E which does seem to help. My head was bruised for well over a week after the second treatment though. I had my treatment in Birmingham and am due back to work at the start of January. My problem and dilemma is that nearly all the posts I've seen said people didn't notice much change or commented about now growing their hair but with me EVERYONE has noticed and commented. I work in an environment where p**s taking is rife. Mine does like a full head of shaven hair, which would have taken a miracle. In particular, I had shades 50 and 52 so I'm quite worried. I've seen posts where they've said even their wife / sister / girlfriends haven't even known they've had the treatment. I look at 'Magnus' treatment on the forum and that was how I had hoped mine would be like. I think I need to colour my eyebrows because they are much lighter than my treatment. I wouldn't say I'm a worrier about things but this has had me awake from 3am every morning, looking to see if it has faded...and it hasn't. Ah well, it's done now and all I can hope for is that it slowly starts to fade, perhaps in the sunshine next summer???? 2hangar, I was up your way for Christmas. Wish I'd seen then where your location was; we could have met up and you could have seen SMP in real life, albeit not yet the finished product.
  20. Getting caught out

    After my first treatment my right temple was very painful. When I went back for the 2nd session after one full week I still couldn't touch that area so my 2nd session was simply to lower the front a couple of mm and attend to the top. So blending may not look right. Session 1 was with shade 50; session 2 with 52 so I hoped for a lighter shading. The sides are the shade I was hoping for all over (as though I had decided to shave because my hair was starting to thin and beginning to go bald) but the extra work on the top is just too dark and too, well, intense I suppose. I'm also unsure of how the hairline goes; for my age and previous total baldness I think it should look more receded on each side. Could that easily be lazered to that shape????
  21. Getting caught out

    3 weeks after 2nd treatment:
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    Before treatment:
  23. Getting caught out

    2hanger and Shaved Shadow. I intend trying to upload photos tomorrow. I've been away for Christmas and travelled back home today...nightmare traffic......so am knackered now but will try tomorrow. I took photos on my mobile phone before I had my first session then a couple of photos last week which I sent to HisHair to get their opinion on a worry I have. So, I just need to work out how to load them from my phone. I don't want to put anyone off having SMP. Like I said previously, if I were starting a new life elsewhere then this would be fine, but EVERYONE notices that suddenly I have quite a lot of 'dark hair stubble' when they have always known me with a very fair skinned completely bald head. Unless I'm mates with Harry Potter, my transformation is not believeable. 2hanger, in answer to your post, I've had 2 sessions, both about 5 hours long. I'm due a 3rd session in January but as it is already too noticeable I don't know what to do about that 3rd session. Lazer, perhaps??? I know this post is worthless without photos though so I will leave it at that till tomorrow.
  24. Getting caught out

    Thanks for the replies. I dunno what is going on with me and why I am the only one really being scrutinised. I think the photo in SMPler's post looks superb. It is darker than mine but like I am very light skinned and also i think having had NOTHING AT ALL up top for years it's too obvious a change from how I looked before. 2hanger, I will try and post photos over the next day or 2. (Never done it before so will need to work out how). I do keep going back to Damien's photos and other light / fair skinned photos and mine is so much darker (and a bit blueish????). I've met up with family for Christmas and it's ranges from my mother thinking I'm letting my hair grow to my brother asking if I've had a transplant...albeit he was joking but it shows my smp is so obvious. I will try and load before and after photos as soon as I can. Thanks again for your replies.
  25. Getting caught out

    Willgreen, SEVEN sessions? Wow!! I found both my sessions quite painful...higher than the 2/10 pain markers people have quoted. Not to say the few hours of pain aren't worth the relief from baldness, though. I'm considering when questioned again of saying I'm taking medication for hair loss or something like that. I dunno if that is better than just trying to laugh it off and not provide a reason. I would just come clean but one guy at work used to wear a hairpiece and he received such derisive comments as well as people laughing behind his back that honesty may not be the best plan. Anyone else ever been asked to explain their sudden transformation?